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  • crazyghoda
    10-16 01:59 PM
    Some moron gave me a Red for my post below with the comment ".."



    Seriously dude, if you are so naive as to think that ROW folks are just going sit around and watch EB2 India consume the spillover numbers, then get your head examined or stop smoking that pipe. Have you ever wondered how low the participation is from ROW applicants on these forums? This is simply because for the most part its become a desi forum mostly dominated by EB2 folks.



    Or you can give me another red and stick your head back in the sand (...or in those clouds, whatever the case may be)



    A lot of EB2 folks are getting excited about getting the spillover from EB1 and EB2 ROW but has anyone contemplated that lots of EB3 ROWs will now start at looking at porting their dates to EB2 just as most people from EB3 India are?



    Boy, I sure wish I was a lawyer! If this system remains as screwed up for another 20 years, I am surely sending my kid to law school :D











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  • GCBoy786
    09-27 11:21 AM
    I feel that this will be an excellent idea. Atleast some people will be eliminated from the queue. I believe there are lot of people waiting for their GC to buy a home. It will also benefit them.



    I sent the emails to some of the senators in the list.









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  • Marphad
    03-27 02:17 PM
    I cannot think of any one good leader left in india. not one who can rise above self-interest and narrow mentality. Can you imagine any one of the so called leaders that was mentioned in this list leading the nation, and not be a laughing stock? remember deva gowda at davos...made a mockery of India there. Mayawati/modi, etc. what kind of leadership qualities (international affairs/finance/etc) do they have? the only kind of experience they have is gundaism, and creating conflicts with caste, culture and religion.

    I wish most of the current class of leaders were erased, and a new class of leaders were brought in. Sadly that'll never happen with the kind of democratic setup we have. in the name of representation, we are debarring intellects, and people with broad vision from joining politics.



    Why do you forget Mulayam Singh? He has a great quality of pampering muslims and giving tickets to Gundas. He scored #1 in that.











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  • extra_mint
    03-27 02:55 PM
    Indian democracy can throw many surprises

    I think UPA will get 273 and if that's the case then MMS

    If NDA get's 273 (which is highly unlikely) then Advani (no Modi...otherwise also Modi's communal qualifications are pretty widespread outside of Gujarat). I like the guy but seriously PM of India and CM of Gujarat are 2 different things.



    And if Third front comes to power (they just need around 200 as once they get 200 there will be breakaway groups from UPA and NDA so they can touch 273)



    then we will see real democracy (read lust for power)



    First 6 month Mayawati >> Followed by Jayalalita for 6 months >> Followed by some one from LEFT (comorades work in groups..not sure who will be graced by politburo)



    Above cycle will be repetitive >> and Govt will collapse when Mayawati will complete her second 6 months Tenure.





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  • gcvision2010
    09-03 10:57 AM
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  • nfinity
    07-03 04:41 PM
    Dear Senator,



    After having spent thousands of dollars in legal counsel, medical tests, documentations, affidavits and many days of hurried preparation to file adjustment of status (AOS) for my green card application, USCIS has pulled a fast one me and the legal high skilled community.



    On June 13th 2007, Department Of State indicated visa availability for all applicants starting July 1st causing thousands of prospective legal high skilled immigrants to prepare their applications only to be surprised on the very first day (July 2nd) with rejections due to apparent exhaustion of existing visas.



    This unprecented and possibly illegal action on part of USCIS, has left high skilled immigrants like myself in a limbo. We are wondering what we have done to be wronged in this way. I am a law abiding, tax paying resident contributing to the economy.



    Please help us in overcoming this situation. We definetly do not deserve such treatment for having followed the law in the land of opportunity on the eve of independence day.



    Thank You,



    Sincerely,





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  • jayleno
    07-21 01:49 PM
    This discussion is a lot fun guys.



    I hate these Amway and Quickstar guys with a passion. They are total losers. Though I dont have much to add to what others said before on this thread, I just want some Amway/Quickstar person to see this thread and realize what people of think of them. Doesnt matter I guess. Those guys are shameless and thickskinned.



    Chanduv23, couldn't have said it better. These days, like you said, I too feel very conscious of talking to Desi people who I meet at the public places.



    Some tips I collected after meeting at least 10 Quickstar jokers in the last few years. At some point I was suspecting if I was a Qucikstar magnet. :)



    Common pick up lines for them are:

    1) I have seen you some where

    2) I'm new to the area and I'm looking for a new roommate/place to live.

    3) Nice car/phone. How do you like it? I'm/my-wife-is thinking of buying exact same thing.

    4) If seen at a Desi store, what movie do you suggest?



    After some converstaion like what do you do etc, bang comes the question "How do you like to make some extra money after work?". Thats when you have to pick up your cell phone and answer some imaginary call and ignore the person.











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  • TeddyKoochu
    01-15 04:48 PM
    "What about the legitimate people who didnt buy the visa and due to USCIS, struck in GC black hole...? Do you have any way to segregate bad apple from good one. You just want to throw the baby with bath water. Period."

    U tell how USCIS should segregate bad apple with good one ? Should they allow the status quo because good apple will be affected ?



    Buddy I believe you are being too harsh. Status Quo is never a great idea, however please consider the following scenario's you will realize the larger issue, no disrespect meant to you. Nobody is a fan of consulting only companies including those who work for them.



    1) In case of cancer, chemotherapy or radiotherapy is not applied to the entire body but just the affected part and the dosage is carefully measured not to cause any harm to the good portion howsoever small it maybe.



    2) In a state if a certain area is bad does not mean that every person or everything is bad in that area and the only cure is to eliminate everything.



    3) In a field in a given area if some crops are infected the idea is that you try to weed out just them without harming the good crops or the soil.



    What you are implying is just eliminate a practice right away because the rules of the game suddenly changed one fine day. Your intentions seem to be correct however in your blind justice you are forgetting that there are many good brilliant apples as well (In fact more good than bad) and their families who work hard everyday, have been doing so for many years waiting for their GC and are probably partially stale already. Your notion of justice, correctness and change will kill / finish them as well. Sometimes idealism in reality is not as good as it looks like when just thinking.





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  • gcvision2010
    09-03 10:57 AM
    May his soul rest in Peace!









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  • BharatPremi
    10-25 04:45 PM
    what is definition of "canadian business".



    Ans: The company originally set up in any province in canada.



    - May have business interest/setup in other countries in terms of

    branch/subcidiary or partnership with other compny in otehr country.

    can we extrpoltae your suggestion little bit more or is it asking for

    too much



    1. once you have PR ask your wife to open a company A.

    2. As a employee of company A you can come over to USA while maintainig your PR status. You should still be considered to be covered under candian business wanting the employee to work on international projects..



    can this theory fly...all this assuming no EAD filling in near future



    Ans: Keys: 1) companies MUST be set in both canada and US



    2) For investing you need not to be resident. This is true for both

    US and Canada.

    3) For filing GC you MUST be an employee. IF you are investor

    you can not file GC under your company

    4) US GC is very lengthy process. How you can make sure your

    employment for around 7 to 8 years? So considering this and point 3, convince your wife to set the business both in Canada nad USA.



    - Since you can not become investor to achieve US GC ( Considering to apply through Employment category .. which is cheap cost option), make

    your wife a boss and let her run business. You become an employee in Company A (Canada)set by her. Tell her to set company B in US. Tell her to find the project in US. Let her tell the client (USA) to go into contract with company B. Company B's owner (Your wife) will make a contract with Company A ( Here also your wife is an owner) for the position at that client. Being an employee of company A ("Canadian Business") your employer (your wife) will put a TN visa request to the consulate showing USA's client (comany B) business need. Upon approval you fly to USA (Now your wife is your family so wife will also fly with you) for starting a job. You will be considered "Physical Resident" of Canada as "Canadian Business" sent you to USA for business need. Now after some time tell Company B ( Owner: Your Wife)to file US GC application for "Future Employment". As long as you keep getting valid project work in USA, now you will be in a position to stop counting years of GC process. You will be able to maintain Canadian PR , can become Canadian citizen after 3 years and wait for US GC coolly. Ofcourse every year TN will have to be renewed.



    Possible flaws in theory: 1) Double taxes (In Canada nad US) ( Will require some research and good advise from Tax expert from both in Canada and US)

    2) May affect TN renewals adversely !!? ( No idea.. suggestions welcome).



    To me this way of thinking seems to be perfectly legal.. But I think we should better ask some good professinal lawyers who are experts for both Canadian and US immigration.





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  • Desichakit
    07-17 12:33 PM
    As per USCIS VISA Bulletin of July 2008. If there is spillover from EB2 to EB3 the it will benefit EB3 India as Visas have to be allocated to more retrogessed country first. Even if that is not that case and numbers are evenly spread even then EB3 India stands to be at advantage. I think EB3 India will benefit from this intrepretation eventually.



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  • ita
    03-30 04:59 PM
    As far as I know...

    LIke you said India was just born and Nehru with full majority was heading the country . You know what he did he came up with Democratic-Socialistic model which is the hybrid of Communist-Socialist Russia,Democartic-Capatilistic U.S



    This Democratic-Socialism was never tried anywhere else in the world.It was the so called vision of Nehru(albeit cut-copy-paste).



    Interestingly explanation he gave for advocating his recipe was the same explanation you are giving for 'why it is difficult to rule India'



    He said since India is young country it needs gentle intervention from state to get rid of the existing social-economic disparities. His formula resulted in bureaucratic bottlenecks, red tape, widened existing socio-economic disparities ,gave rise to mafia culture and the list goes on making Nehruvian socialism synonymous to failure in Indian dictionary.His dynastic descendants tried to push it under carpet as long as they could .Result: we see people thinking Nehru was a visionary.



    Our own Intelligent MMS in 90's named Nehruviain Socialism a failure before he opened the reforms in the market.It is said that when P.V/MMS duo took charge they found that country's foreign exchanges reserves couldn't last for 24 hours.





    India is very difficult to rule. Thats why we outsource that. It is not a joke.



    Even after independence, Nehru had very strong majority goverment. Still he had a problems in ruling the country. He had lot of vision in economy, poverty, socialism etc.. But he and subsequent PMs (mostly congress) failed becuse of unimaginable local issues based on India's diversity and polygenious nature of the state. India is a victim of its own diversity and long/old (and strong) regional history. This diversity includes language, tradition, culture, food habit, religion, caste and so on. Therefore, India is victim of its own division and diversity. India is untied or born in 1947 because of British rule. Infact, there is no country called Republic of India before 1947. Indian constitution (or concept of united India) is brand new compare to regional history. Naturally, regional interest always prevails. So ruling India is still a new and uphill task. 60 years is very less to come to conclusion. Thats why, all congress PMs had failed in reforms. And now in the information age, India become materialistic, everybody wants everything. So naturally corruption increases. So one can not blame just congress alone for the mess.





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  • iv_only_hope
    07-21 09:20 PM
    Ron gotcher says dates will go back yesteryears:





    "Most likely, India E2 will retrogress in October back to late 2002 or early 2003. Don't count on rapid forward movement in the future."



    He says he got this from DOS.



    What abt this?



    PS: I am just asking not arguing.











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  • tikka
    07-04 12:13 AM
    http://digg.com/politics/U_S_Withdraws_Offer_of_60_000_Job_Based_Visas_Ange ring_Immigration_Lawyer/who



    has 72 DIGGS in less than an hour.. if we get this to a 100 this story will stay on TOP!!!!



    HURRYYYYYYY





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  • qvadis
    02-13 06:44 PM
    Before AC21, the spill over goes vertically.

    After AC21, the spill over should go horizontally.



    Now ROW experts, post your comment for this hypothitical example ..



    Lets assume there are 100 unused visas in EB2 catagory in a calender quarter. Worldwide EB damand is more than 140,000. Now, how will you assisn those numbers if it is before AC21 period and if it is after AC21 period.



    If you say in both cases it goes to EB3-ROW, then we are not stupid to listien.



    (a) INA 202(a)(3) states that the total number of visas available under both subsections (a) and (b) [...] exceeds the number of qualified immigrants [...] (2) shall not apply [...]. In your case, there are no excess visas available for FB immigrants.



    (b) INA 202(e) Special Rules for Countries at Ceiling. requires that additional visas are distributed according to the world-wide distribution across FB and EB categories. Of the 100 unused visas 77 would have to be alloted to FB, and only 22 to EB categories. Assuming a 1/3 distribution in EB categories EB1, EB2, EB3, 7 would go to EB2.



    If USCIS cannot follow this rule, those 100 visas would be unused for that fiscal year.



    With AC21, the 100 can be assigned to oversubscribed countries, if Visas are available, ie. demand in all categories is less than supply. With EB3-ROW retrogressed, that is not the case.



    Just the way I see it....











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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 01:40 PM
    Let me see if I understand PlainSpeak's language:

    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill, knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!



    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3 (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)



    3. An exercise to gain trust by misleading!:D



    I wonder why IV core did not come up with this brilliant idea ;)

    Mr willigetgc to start off with here are a few facts



    1. IV core needs to put a lot of resources to lobby for the DV bill

    IV Core need not put a lot of resources to lobby for DV bill if they feel it is not worth the time and effort. that is for IV Core to decide and the decision is theirs to make after all they know about advocacy and lobbying



    1. knowing full well that this bill will go nowhere!

    That is my personal opinion and also the opinion of a whole bunch of people on this forum who do not agree with me but do agrree to teh fact that it has been 4 years since any immigration friendly bill came to be debated in congress. What wil make DV bill any different. This wil also go the same way. I would be surpirsed if it even comes up for debate



    2. Raise a false sense of hope among the EB3 community, again, knowing full well that its going to be dashed - just so that IV gains the trust of EB3



    My friend willigetgc what do EB3 people have besides hope. If you look at the statistics i will get GC in 19 year sand you with a priority date of May 07 (20 - 25 years). No reason not to hope for something and if IV really believes in what i suggested (I am sure it will go through all possible refinements) that would be a signal of not just hope but also action on part of IV to do something about EB Retrogressed folks. Now i am not saying it will happen and i am also not saying it will. All i am saying is here is a chnace to do something different which is also right because iot is not part of teh IV charter that IV is working to get relief for retrogressed EB



    (I am EB3, and they have my trust without your logic!)

    And what a great thing it is that you being an EB3 with a priority date of 2007 are working with EB2 hand in hand to get something done. It is great that you have trust with IV. Without trust nothing works. What i say is i have trust in IV i do not have trust that what they advocate is good for EB3. Semantics you may say but please read the lines carefully my friend. I hope you will understand





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  • ramus
    06-28 05:19 PM
    I just did same.. I just asked to make sure we are filing on first day..





    ok u guys have forced me to pose the same question to my HR/Attorney...awaiting response.









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  • gc_lover
    06-28 09:51 AM
    Hi,

    Are they predicting just mid month retrogression or early month retrogression?

    Thanks



    Actually, they are not predicting anything. All he is saying is that it has happened before to "other worker" category and it can happen again to EB categories.











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  • aps
    09-23 02:57 AM
    IV is started for one cause, that is to eliminate the unfair country quota and speed up the green card process. Let us stick with that.Do not divert by introducing these kind of proposals.



    Few weeks before there was a fight between eb3 and eb2 applicants on this forum. Now you are starting a new group which favors who has money. This is not good. Let us unite and focus on one goal. I am not supporting this idea. Please drop this.



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    vimalm
    08-22 11:43 AM
    Dear Samay



    My wife's H1 COS is approved with a start date of Oct 1, 08. Due to a family emergency she needs to travel to India and stay there for extended period of time (well past Oct 1. Expecting to return back End of Nov). Currently she is on H4 with her H4 Visa stamp expired.



    My question is can she come back on H1-B status at end of Nov? I understand that she will have to apply for H1-B visa stamping without paystubss in India and that can be very risky.



    She needs to leave ASAP (once we receive the approval in hand). Can she leave prior to Oct 1 or does she have to wait till Oct 1 and then go in order for COS to take effect?



    Your response is really appreciated.











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